Today’s episode features two programs from multi-talented Black women on how to capture what it is to be human in two different art forms. We’ll hear from best selling author, voting rights advocate, and history making Stacey Abrams in conversation with CNN’s Jake Tapper on her latest thriller novel Rogue Justice, followed by the inspiring Oscar winning costume designer Ruth E. Carter as she looks back on her career as depicted in Art of Ruth E. Carter: Costuming Black History and the Afrofuture, from Do the Right Thing to Black Panther. SHOW NOTES: Watch the full conversation of Stacey Abrams with Jake Tapper here.  Read the podcast transcript. Photo: Stacey Abrams at the Vic Theatre and Ruth E. Carter at the Music Box Theatre as part of the Chicago Humanities 2023 Spring Festival. Rogue Justice: a Thriller, Stacey Abrams All the Demons are Here: a Thriller, Jake Tapper Art of Ruth E. Carter: Costuming Black History and the Afrofuture, from Do the Right Thing to Black Panther, Ruth E. Carter   Donate now to support programs like this: https://www.chicagohumanities.org/donate/ Explore upcoming events: https://www.chicagohumanities.org/   Instagram • TikTok • Twitter • Facebook • LinkedIn