Today’s episode features a first: two programs from the same speaker at different moments in history - Patti Smith: as interviewed by Jessica Hopper in 2019, and back again in 2022, telling stories and singing live with guitar accompaniment from her son Jackson. SHOW NOTES: Watch the full conversations from 2019 here and from 2022 here. Read the podcast transcript. CW: Light profanity. Photo: Patti Smith at the Chicago Humanities Fall Festival at the Symphony Center. Photo: Patti Smith at the Music Box Theatre with a photo of Maryam Mirzakhani. Photo: Patti Smith at the Music Box Theatre with a photo of a porcelain bird. Patti Smith, Year of the Monkey Patti Smith, A Book of Days Jessica Hopper, The First Collection of Criticism By A Living Female Rock Critic   Episode photo by Steven Sebring   Donate now to support programs like this: https://www.chicagohumanities.org/donate/ Explore upcoming events: https://www.chicagohumanities.org/   Instagram • TikTok • Twitter • Facebook • LinkedIn